Tribes: Ascend
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- Jun 27, 2012
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Tribes: Ascend 1.3 - Patch Notes
Gameplay Hellfire is now available to play for CTF and Blitz and has been added to all appropriate server map rotations. Votekick percentage increased to 45%, up from 35% Changed votekick message to include player who initiated the votekick. "Vote by : kick ?" Ammo pickups now yi
Original postGameplay
- Hellfire is now available to play for CTF and Blitz and has been added to all appropriate server map rotations.
- Votekick percentage increased to 45%, up from 35%
- Changed votekick message to include player who initiated the votekick.
- "Vote by [votekick_starter]: kick [kickable_player]?"
- Ammo pickups now yield the same 400 hp heal on all armor types when
- Light - Heals for 400 HP, up from 300.
- Medium - Heals for 400 hp, down from 462.
- Heavy - Heals for 400 hp, down from 520. picked up.
- Blueshift has been removed from map rotations by community request. This map will still be available to play on custom servers.
Equipment Changes
- Automatic Weapons
- All rapid fire weapons have had RNG based spread completed removed in favor for precise shots based on player skill only.
- The following weapons have had their damage falloff values adjusted to 80% damage at range. This is to normalize the falloff between other similar weapons.
- Falcon
- NJ4
- X1 LMG
- Saber Launcher
- May now fire without locking a target. This will result a dumbfire missile with no tracking ability, similar to the old Titan Launcher.
- Tracking Missile
- Target vehicle is locked with the same previous method and timing
- Damage increased to 1350, up from 1200
- Impulsed increased to 85000, up from 80000
- Range increased to 360, up from 220
- Dumbfire Missile
- Impulsed increased to 85000, up from 80000
- Range increased to 360, up from 220
- Damage set to 370
- Direct impact damage multiplier set to 2.0
- Impulse set to 85000
- Range set to 300
- Speed set to 3000
- Inheritance set to 50%
- Size set to 15
- Mortar Launcher
- Mortar direct impact timer increased to 0.75 seconds, up from 0.5 seconds.
- When hitting a vehicle the shorter timer is now used.
- Damage lowered to 1300, down from 1400.
- Direct hit bonus increased to 1.154, up from 1.0. Now deals 1500 damage on direct impact. Minimum damage decreased to 600 damage at max range.
- Thrown Disks
- Decreased damage to 350, down from 600.
- Increased direct hit multiplier to 2.0, up from 1.5. Now deals 700 damage on direct impact.
- Heavy weapons impulse reduction
- The following weapons have had their impulse values reduced to 85,000 down from 90,000.
- Heavy Spinfusor
- Heavy Bolt Launcher
- Heavy Blinksfusor
- Plasma Gun
- Fire interval reduced to 0.5, down from 0.6
- Damage reduced to 270, down from 280.
- NJ5 returns to Medium armor.
- Fire interval set to 0.2
- Damage set to 150
- Falls off to 80% damage at at max range of 6000.
- Impact Nitron
- Increased radius to 400, up from 350.
- Shocklance
- Damage increased to 600, up from 500.
- No longer drains energy for up to 250 bonus damage.
- Damage dealt from behind remains at 2x.
- Removed impulse given to hit target.
- Fixed a long standing issue where beams from sniper rifles would not connect with a target when successfully hit at long distances.
- Fixed an issue preventing players from equipping a repair tool at a repair station when they have the ELF gun equipped.
- Fixed an issue where the Flak Cannon / EFG would not reload at various stages in its clip.
- Fixed an issue where the Flak Cannon / EFG would award multiple kills on a single target.
Vehicles
- Vehicle ejection speeds have been increased.
- Light ejects at 50% vehicle speed, up from 40%
- Medium ejects at 40% vehicle speed, up from 35%
- GravCycle
- Health reduced to 1400, down from 2200.
- Shrike
- Health reduced to 1400, down from 2800
- Energy regeneration per second reduced to 10, down from 20
- Reduced impulse from weapon to 2500, down from 10,000
- Explosion radius reduced to 200, down from 250
- Fixed an issue where many projectiles were being killed on direct impact with a vehicle and not dealing damage to them, especially while stationary.
Misc.
- Additional network optimizations to improve performance.
- Tweaked load balancing logic to try and keep players on the same physical server between map transitions.
- Lowered minimum mip settings to allow players to adjust their INI settings for extremely low texture resolutions.
- Fixed an issue where the weapon HUD would turn back on after match completed even though it had been disabled.
- Fixed an issue where the laser targeter target location wasn’t being properly set while in 3rd person camera mode.
- Fixed an issue where empty perks were being shown in the spectator hud.
- Developer post
March NA Draft Information
March NA Draft Information Date & Time The draft will be on March 12th/13th; picking will start at 4PM EDT on the 12th. Group stages will start at ~5PM EDT. For the teams that make it to Day 2 (13th) the games will begin at 5PM EDT. Sign-ups Make sure you confirm your registr
Original postMarch NA Draft Information
Date & Time
The draft will be on March 12th/13th; picking will start at 4PM EDT on the 12th.
Group stages will start at ~5PM EDT.
For the teams that make it to Day 2 (13th) the games will begin at 5PM EDT.Sign-ups
Make sure you confirm your registration by Saturday, March 12th, 12PM-4PM EDT otherwise you will not be picked.Rules
- 1 Phase per team
- No hand disks for heavy
- 5 minute(300 second) shrike cooldown
Subject to change until the 4th
All matches will be best of 3
The group stages(day 1) will have predetermined maps, with the playoff maps being chosen by the teams with the following process:- Higher seeded team decides who gets to ban the first map
- Each team bans one map
- The last unbanned map is the first played, with the team who got one less ban getting to chose the side played
- Loser of a map get picks the next map, with the winner chosing sides
Maps
Arx
Kata
DX
Raindance
Terminus - Developer post
Newblood Workshop This Saturday 3/05/2016
What is a newblood workshop? Teaching new players how to play PUGs (7v7 with coms), run routes, as well as how to fight enemies and so on.There will be Mentors for each specific role. If you are just curious about the event and arent ready to try out the workshop you are more tha
Original postWhat is a newblood workshop?
Teaching new players how to play PUGs (7v7 with coms), run routes, as well as how to fight enemies and so on.There will be Mentors for each specific role. If you are just curious about the event and arent ready to try out the workshop you are more than welcome to just watch. The workshop will be streamed on the official Tribes Ascend twitch channel
There is no level requirement, just install mumble and join us on the newblood channel at 8:30CET Having a microphone is strongly recommended.Label:
shazbot.eu mumble
Address:
mumble.shazbot.eu
Port:
30033
How it will be organized?
- Streams will go on in the afternoon with a Mentor that will go over routes, time calling and loadouts. The Workshop will start at 3PM and go on till 7PM. We will be doing giveaways in chat during this time.
- At 8:30PM CET: Mentors will meet the newbloods in the mumble channel of the role they taught (capper, Hof, O/D...): If you are new, just connect to the mumble and look for a channel called newblood workshop, we'll help you from there.
- At 10PM We will do a 7v7 with the newbloods that participated in the workshop. Casted if possible!
If you are new or afraid to participate because of your accent, bad english, or your level: Fear not this is a class to learn and become a better player we want the experiance to be enjoyable and fun.
If you have any questions,concerns or comment, please do so here - Developer post
Oceanic Tribes Ascend Draft Feb 27/28
There will be a draft tournament happening on the 27th and 28th of February 2016 Sign up here For more information please go to
Original postThere will be a draft tournament happening on the 27th and 28th of February 2016
Sign up here
For more information please go to http://www.ocedraft.com/ - Developer post
Tribes:Ascend Version 1.2
We will be upgrading Tribes starting Thursday, January 28th 2016, at 10:00 AM EST(5:00 PM CEST) Expected downtime will be around 3 hours. Skin prices have been reduced to 480 gold per skin. Equipment Changes Heavy Armor Increased mass by 7% Decreased initial jetpack impulse by 25
Original postWe will be upgrading Tribes starting Thursday, January 28th 2016, at 10:00 AM EST(5:00 PM CEST) Expected downtime will be around 3 hours.
Skin prices have been reduced to 480 gold per skin.
Equipment Changes
- Heavy Armor
- Increased mass by 7%
- Decreased initial jetpack impulse by 25%
- Most Impact class explosive weapons have received a reduction in radius size.
- Light Armor
- Light Spinfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 400
- Light Blinksfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 400
- Bolt Launcher radius reduced to 400, down from 500
- Medium Armor
- Spinfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 425
- Blinksfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 425
- Twinfusor radius reduced to 300, down from 320
- Thumper radius reduced to 400, down from 530
- Heavy Armor
- Heavy Spinfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 450
- Heavy Blinksfusor radius reduced to 360, down from 450
- Heavy Twinfusor radius reduced to 300, down from 340
- Heavy Bolt Launcher radius reduced to 400, down from 565
- Light Armor
- Grenade Launcher explosion radius reduced to 500, down from 530.
- Fusion Mortar
- “The Deluxe Mortar Launcher was a fan favorite, so these changes are to bring the fusion mortar more in line with the feel of the DXML”
- Radius reduced to 650, down from 700.
- Increased bounce damping to 80%, up from 75% (DXML)
- Removed direct hit bonus.
- Now deals full damage (1400) on direct hit.
- Jackal radius increased to 400, up from 350
- Phase Rifle
- Locks an Energy pack in your pack slot.
- Phase Rifle sets your energy pool max to 75, 90 with Rage active.
- Damage per energy increased to 5.333 per energy consumed. Up from 3.
- Fully charged shot consuming 75 energy deals 400 damage. up from 375.
- Fully charged shot consuming 90 energy, after Rage buff, deals 480. up from 450.
- With a max energy of 75, time to regen to full charged shot reduced to 5.35 seconds, down from 8.9 seconds.
- BXT1
- Locks an Energy pack in your pack slot
- Charge mechanic removed
- Deals 250 damage in scope or out
- Range increased to 20,000, up from 10,000
- Falloff starts at 2,000 and falls off to 100 damage at max range
- Saber Launcher
- No longer locks onto airborne players
- Projectile speed increased to 845, up from 650.
- Sparrow, Eagle, and Nova Colt
- Damage increased to 95, up from 85
- Magazine size increased to 15, up from 12.
- Increased ammo carry numbers to support larger magazines.
- Shock Lance
- Now deals 500 base damage, regardless of how much energy is available.
- Consumes up to 50 energy, or less depending how much energy is available.
- Damage is calculated as Energy Consumed x 5
- Total damage is doubled when target is struck in the back.
- Flak Cannon
- Reduced projectile size to 25, down from 30.
- Lowered damage per connecting shot to 65, down from 75.
- Plasma Gun
- Damage increased to 280, up from 230.
- Carried ammo increased to 54, up from 48.
- Chain Gun
- Damage increased to 80, up from 75.
- Ammo adjustments
- Assault Rifle max ammo increased to 216, up from 192.
- NJ4 SMG max ammo increased to 270, up from 240
- Nova Blaster max ammo increased to 54, up from 48
- Sawed Off max ammo reduced to 24, down from 60.
- Belt Items
- T5 Grenade is now available to the Light Armor.
- Explodes after 2 seconds
- Damage is 800, falls off to 400 at max range
- Explosion radius is 600
- Blackout Grenade radius increased to 600, up from 550
- Cluster Grenade radius increased to 550, up from 500
- EMP Grenade radius increased to 600, up from 550.
- Sticky Grenade radius increased to 600, up from 550.
- Drop Station deployables no longer require generators to be up to function.
- Stealth pack reveal speed increased to 150, up from 100. This is the
- Tribes:Ascend 1.0 value.
- Fixed an issue where Drop Stations were still functional after being destroyed.
- Fixed an issue where Chaff Grenades could permanently jam a friendly player.
- Fixed an issue where the Heavy Blinksfusor had incorrect reload speeds.
- It is now in line with the standard heavy spinfusor.
- Fixed an issue where Nova Blaster MX could still have upgrades affecting
- various weapon stats.
Vehicles
- Vehicles are now generated on a team wide timer
- “At the beginning of the round vehicle timers are started. Once each vehicle's timer has completed, 1 vehicle is generated, up to the limit per vehicle type. Once that vehicle is taken, it is moved from “Generated”, to in play. The vehicle in play still affects the ability to generate more vehicles of that type. For example: The server has limited shrikes to 1. Once generated, that shrike may be claimed by a player. Because the server has limited shrikes to 1, no additional shrikes will be generated until the shrike has been destroyed.”
- All of the following values are modifiable through custom server settings.
- Each vehicle type has:
- Max number in play.
- Length of time before each vehicle type is generated.
- Max of one Generated, or “On Deck”. If this vehicle is not claimed and the timer reaches zero, the timer resets to the max time and restarts.
- Default Values:
- Grav Cycle
- Max in play 4
- Max of 1 on deck
- Generation time 30 seconds
- Shrike
- Max in play 2
- Max of 1 on deck
- Generation time 90 seconds
- Beowulf
- Max in play 2
- Max of 1 on deck
- Generation time 60 seconds
- Grav Cycle
- Fire interval increased to 0.1 seconds, up from 0.08 seconds
- Damage multiplyer vs base assets reduced to 2, down from 4.
- Shrike
- Fire interval increased to 0.125 seconds, up from 0.1 seconds.
- Ammo pool reduced to 9, down from 12.
- Burst fire count reduced to 3 shots.
Gameplay
- Pressing Q now selects your weapon that was previously in hand.
- Grenade throw speed increased by 25%.
- Votekick now only requires 35% of all players in the server to vote “Yes” to pass. Reduced down from 70%
- Lifetime for bullet based projectiles has been increased to 1 second, up from 0.5 seconds. This will increase the range of the projectile back to Tribes:Ascend 1.0 ranges.
- Ammo pickups now restore 20% of your energy pool when picked up. Healing has not changed.
- Inventory stations no longer refill your energy. This is to prevent energy based weapons from circumventing the recharge time.
- Fixed an issue where vehicle stations were not taking bonus damage from base asset damage modifiers.
- Fixed an issue in blueshift where players could abuse the team blocker on the boosters.
- Everyone may enter the booster, but only friendlies get the boost applied. This will allow an enemy to return his flag inside the booster.
Misc.- Music and flag audio queues have been fixed on maps introduced in 1.1.
- Fixed issues with banning equipment where some banned equipment would unintentionally ban other equipment while customizing a server.
- Fixed an issue where long distance explosions would not play their explosion FX. This was most obvious on the Mortar Launcher.
- Fixed an issue on perdition where ragdolls would catapult out of the map.
- Fixed an issue where the armor select UI would not go up to 100% even though a player had unlocked all items available.
- Heavy Armor
- Developer post
Out of the Blue EU Draft: Signups Now Open
Draft date: 23-24 January 2016 Signups now open Head over to tribesschedule.com and sign up for the January 2016 Draft Event. Introduction to the website and how to sign up here: done by Flagician the IT magician Check-ins will open Saturday 23 January at 8 am and close at 4pm Ce
Original postDraft date: 23-24 January 2016
Signups now open
Head over to tribesschedule.com and sign up for the January 2016 Draft Event.
Introduction to the website and how to sign up here: https://imgur.com/a/8SBTA done by Flagician the IT magicianCheck-ins will open Saturday 23 January at 8 am and close at 4pm Central European Time (CET). After check-ins are closed, the captains will begin picking the teams. Games will hopefully start at 5 pm.
What are check-ins? A check-in is a confirmation that you will be present for the tournament. By signing up you just state that you might/will be there unless something happens. When you check-in you commit to being in the EU mumble in time for games to start.
Captains
Check that captain box when you signup. While it is true that not many people enjoy captaining, without you the draft does not happen. So be a good sandraker/butcher and lead your team to victory.Tournament Format
Sadly we cannot provide you with a proper schedule. Why? Because this can only be done once we know how many teams can be formed with the players attending. And this is impossible to know until draft day.
That said, here are the scenarios:- If 6 or 8 teams we will have a Round Robin group stage with teams evenly split in two groups. Games will be bo2 with predetermined maps. With a single elimination knockout stage (bo3 with map bans)
- If we have 5 or 7 teams we will have a Round Robin group stage but with only one group. Games will be bo1 and have predetermined maps. Then a single elimination knockout stage (again, bo3 with map bans)
In all of the above cases, the top 4 (or top2 of each group) will advance to the knockout stage, which will consist of semifinals and a final.
It is a bit different with 4 teams. In that case we will do the following:- A double elimination knockout tournament, with all games being bo3 except the Grand Final, which will be a bo5. In the grand final, the team that comes into it undefeated will start with a 1 - 0 lead. (Meaning they only need to win 2 maps while the opponents need to win 3)
Schedules for all of this scenarios will be premade and the proper one will be put in a reddit post on draft day while picking happens.
In all of these scenarios, even the last placed team will play 4 - 6 maps while it not being too exhausting as a format. We'll try to space the schedule properly so players can catch a breather in between games.
One thing I would like to hear from you lot: Currently the Final is set to be a bo3 if we have 5 teams or more. Would you prefer it to be a bo5?Mappool
Arx Novena, Katabatic, Dangerous Crossing, Drydock, Raindance, Terminus and Ice Coaster
There was much deliberation for choosing a mappool. As pretty much every Tribes player seems to despise all maps bar 3 or 4. So pleasing everybody here is a gargantuan task.
The reasoning behind our picks is rather straightforward: Arx, Kata & DX are the golden trio (even if DX can be pretty polarizing). They are the most played maps in pugs for a reason. Drydock and Raindance are tested maps that favour a different playstyle. Drydock makes cluster play more viable while Raindance rewards offense & capper synergy. Terminus and Ice Coaster are included because they are new and fresh. Plus it wouldn't be an Out of the Blue tournament without Out of the Blue maps.Do you already hate the entire mappool bar 3 - 4 maps? Do not fret! You will be able to ban them in the knockout stage of the draft. Here is how:
Map ban process:
For this tournament we would like to ditch the old map ban process and try something new. You are probably familiar with it if you follow CS:GO.
Previously, the captains would ban one map each and then remove maps until one was left. Then, the loser of the map would pick the next one (couldn't picked the 2 maps that were banned at the start)
The new system is the following: Captains ban 1 map each, then pick one map each. Then, captains ban 1 map each again and the remaining one will be the last map of the bo3.
For the semifinals, the seeded (as in, the team that placed higher in the group stage) team will be the one banning first. For the final, an admin will flip a coin to determine who bans first.
This system is only for the knockout stage. In the group stage, maps will be pre-determined.Tournament Rules
Gameplay rules- Shrike Health set to 50%
- Maximum of two heavies allowed per team
- Chaff Grenade banned
- Throwing Disk banned
- Saber Launcher banned
This is basically the current EU Pugs ruleset. If the upcoming patch happens to drop before the tournament and changes any of these items to the point that they aren't a problem anymore, we will consider unbanning them. On the same note, if this upcoming patch breaks something horribly, we can make a last second adjustment to ban it. Let's hope that is not needed.
More information...
- Developer post
Patch Overview: Out of the Blue Tribes:Ascend Version │1.1
Hello Tribes fans, and welcome to the patch overview for the Out of the Blue patch. With the new "Out of the Blue" patch, we wanted to bring back classic elements from older Tribes games, while not alienating Tribes: Ascend fans. This patch is a return to form that will better sp
Original postHello Tribes fans, and welcome to the patch overview for the Out of the Blue patch.
With the new "Out of the Blue" patch, we wanted to bring back classic elements from older Tribes games, while not alienating Tribes: Ascend fans. This patch is a return to form that will better spiritually align Tribes:Ascend with the series in addition to fixing many longstanding quality of life issues in the game.
An all new map named Terminus has been added to the game. This map is based on well received Tribes:Ascend maps Katabatic and Arx Novena. Two new legacy inspired maps Perdition, based on the T2 classic Damnation, and Ice coaster, based on the T1 classic Rollercoaster are also now available.
We have removed Classes in favor of the classic 3 armor types. Light, Medium, and Heavy. That, by popular request, may carry additional weapons for the classic Spinfusor, Chaingun, Grenade launcher gameplay. With the removal of classes and the addition of extra weapon slots Tribes:Ascend now allows more flexibility than ever in both outfitting your character and playing a role that you enjoy.
Character outfitting has been redesigned. Players now pick 1 weapon from weapon classes to eliminate annoying or broken weapon combinations. In addition to those weapons that offered little to no unique gameplay have been removed from the game to streamline and simplify choices while equipping. New weapons have been added such as the Flak Cannon, and some classic weapons return such as the ELF Projector. Finally, all weapons have been rebalanced and refined based on community feedback.
We have increased weapon impulse, rebalanced weapons, vehicles, and base assets. Tribes:Ascend is faster, more refined, and more balanced than ever before. All of this has been made possible by excellent feedback from you, the Tribes community, across multiple PTS server cycles. A huge thank you to everyone that helped us out with our public testing.
These large changes may have you worried about your past purchases. Due to the dramatic changes to the underlying game, all in-game purchases have been reverted. What a well placed sound effect. That’s right, all Tribes Gold and XP has been refunded to your account, so if you have previously purchased the Ultimate Weapon Pack or Game of the Year it will be re-added to your account. If there is any Tribes Gold on your account you will be automatically gifted the Ultimate Weapon Pack.
And on top of all these changes, if you’re looking to dive into the history of Tribes, you can head over to
Tribeuniverse
and download every single game in the Tribes franchise for free.
There are so many changes it's impossible to cover them all here. Head on over to
Tribes Ascend
to check out the full patch notes, and until next time Tribes fans, we'll see you in the wilderzone.
- Developer post
Preliminary Patch Notes: Out of the Blue Patch (Version 1.1)
We are actively working on an update to Tribes: Ascend. We currently expect this version to go onto Public Test Server on or before Sept 14, 2015. The "live" date for the release is not yet scheduled, and will depend on the results of the PTS testing. Substantial changes may occu
Original postWe are actively working on an update to Tribes: Ascend. We currently expect this version to go onto Public Test Server on or before Sept 14, 2015. The "live" date for the release is not yet scheduled, and will depend on the results of the PTS testing. Substantial changes may occur prior to the live release.
- Developer post
Small Patch to Correct Launcher Issue
Today we released a very small patch to correct an issue many users were having with the Tribes:Ascend launcher.
Original postToday we released a very small patch to correct an issue many users were having with the Tribes:Ascend launcher.
- Developer post
Get Primed for PAX Cup
Get ready Tribes gamers! Coming hot off the heels of Quakecon and NASL comes the next high-octane, competitive tournament for Tribes: Ascend; the Get Primed for PAX Cup! This tournament will be hosted by Cyber-Sports Network and Hi-Rez Studios and will feature all of the same exc
Original postGet ready Tribes gamers! Coming hot off the heels of Quakecon and NASL comes the next high-octane, competitive tournament for Tribes: Ascend; the Get Primed for PAX Cup! This tournament will be hosted by Cyber-Sports Network and Hi-Rez Studios and will feature all of the same exciting, fast-paced, flag-capping excitement as its predecessors. The Get Primed for PAX Cup will begin on August 18, 2012 and will feature seven versus seven tournament action with a prize pool of $2500 (with $1050 going to the first place team). Matches will run on the weekends of August 18th, 19th, 25th, 26th, and September 1st and 2nd (all from 5pm to 9pm EDT and conducted exclusively online).
If you haven't already visited the CSN website at www.cyber-sports.net and signed-up for this event, make sure to head over there as soon as possible to get your team registered. Sign-ups for the Get Primed for PAX Cup have already begun - so don't miss out in the fun and glory! Matches will be casted by Bart ‘HiRezBart’ Koenigsberg from Hi-Rez Studios and will feature different special guests all hosted on the Cyber Sports Network stream located at http://cyber-sports.net/live. Be sure not to miss out on the next big, competitive event for Tribes: Ascend and get signed up today!
- Developer post
Newbloods Tournament
Welcome new Tribes: Ascend players! Hi-Rez Studios, along with the help of the wider Tribes: Ascend community, will be hosting a new "competitive" tournament specifically designed for new Tribes: Ascend players. Coming off the success of the first Newbloods Tournament (which rece
Original postWelcome new Tribes: Ascend players! Hi-Rez Studios, along with the help of the wider Tribes: Ascend community, will be hosting a new "competitive" tournament specifically designed for new Tribes: Ascend players.
Coming off the success of the first Newbloods Tournament (which recently concluded at the end of June 2012), we are proud to present Newbloods Part 2! In this round, we will again offer an open and friendly environment for new players (or those that still consider themselves to be "new") to compete for great prizes, great matches and a great time! This Newbloods Tournament will offer seperate divisions for North America, Europe and Australia, but will all be conducted in a concurrent time frame.
More information will be coming soon regarding details on how to sign-up, what tournament prizes will be offered and what you can expect for this new tournament!